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rocksea
3rd April 2005, 01:39 PM
Respected Russian and International Oceanographers,

Here we are unfolding Oceanographers RuNet, forum in Russian
language as per the proposal by our active Oceanographer: koldunovn (http://www.oceanographers.net/forums/member.php?u=267).
This is on the vision that providing a section in native language
will be useful for the russian community and the oceanographic society
in large.

Please talk about Oceanography in your own language and in between,
try to enrich the rest of us in english.
If there is general information which is useful for everyone,
please share it in the other forums too :)
koldunovn will be moderating Oceanographers RuNet from here on.
He is currently the webmaster of the www.oceanography.narod.ru (http://www.oceanography.narod.ru/),
the website of the Department of Oceanography, Saint Petersburg University,
Russia

We have also added a Russian interface to some of the menu options.
This you can select by going to User CP -> Edit Options and at the
last you can view the Language Settings. Select Russian as your
language.

As a personal note, being in Japan, I can understand how difficult
it is for many Japanese people to look at english with confidence and
use it. Usually in such cases, multi lingual or flexible forums are
solutions on interactive websites like this.

For the Oceanographic Society,
Oceanographers Net Team

koldunovn
4th April 2005, 06:00 AM
Всех поздравляю с открытием океанологического форума на русском языке!

Огромное спасибо за это людям создавшим и потдерживающим этот замечательный сайт rocksea, vinu, anand и всем из Oceanographers Net Team!

Надеюсь что наш форум станет приятным местом общения рускоязычных океанологов, где можно будет получить ответы на свои вопросы, поделиться идеями, поспорить, порассуждать, куда будет хотеться возвращаться снова и снова.

Итак, приступим…

rocksea
6th April 2005, 03:03 PM
Hope you people are making the best of RuNet.
If there is general information which is useful for everyone,
please share it in the other forums too :)
We are eager to know what you are talking :D

koldunovn
6th April 2005, 09:08 PM
The most interesting discussion now is about .bln files for Surfer. Now we find some files for the world, and program for cutting this files (thanks to Galina). RUS gave us a link to the site were one can take coastlines and provide program which convert this files from lat/lon format to the .bln files. I find .bln files for the Arctic.

Mihail – ask some historical questions about Russian famous ship “Cheluskin”.

In Thread «Конференции» - information about conferences.

In thread «Новости» - news.

Very simple :o Russian it’s easy!

rocksea
7th April 2005, 12:21 PM
Thank you, koldunovn for the information.

Shall I ask you (or anyone who can do it) a favor:

Once in 2 weeks or so, will you post helpful notes from RuNet,
in other forums, in english? Like the topic :

.bln files for Surfer. Now we find some files for the world, and program for cutting this files (thanks to Galina). RUS gave us a link to the site were one can take coastlines and provide program which convert this files from lat/lon format to the .bln files. I find .bln files for the Arctic.)which you can summarise and put on the Oceanographic Applications & Data Analysis.

Also, if there are conferences and news useful for all of us,
someone should post in the english categories too!

Maybe you can assign this job to someone as well. Cheers,

rocksea
7th April 2005, 12:26 PM
Also, everyone please check how to display posts from RuNet when you check for 'New Posts' (http://www.oceanographers.net/forums/showthread.php?p=715#post715)

koldunovn
7th April 2005, 03:36 PM
Also, if there are conferences and news useful for all of us,
someone should post in the english categories too!

I think I will do this for now, no problems, maybe laiter we split it betwin several active members

rocksea
7th April 2005, 04:05 PM
Great :)
Meanwhile, what is Cheluskin famous for?
Is it a former defense vessel or research vessel?

Михаил
9th May 2005, 03:42 AM
Great :)
Meanwhile, what is Cheluskin famous for?
Is it a former defense vessel or research vessel?
“Челюскин”- пароход. Построен в СССР в 1933; водоизмещение 7500 т. Назван по имени С.И. Челюскина. В 1933 на “Челюскине” предпринята попытка за одну навигацию пройти по Северному морскому пути из Мурманска во Владивосток (руководитель экспедиции О.Ю. Шмидт, капитан В.И. Воронин). 13 февраля 1934 “Челюскин” раздавлен льдами в Чукотском море. Участники рейса — “челюскинцы” — спасены лётчиками, которые первыми в СССР получили звание Героя Советского Союза."
В одной из тем форума приведены некоторые сведения.
О С.И.Челюскине рекомендую сайт:
http://www.zoohall.com.ua/findex.php?page=http://zoohall.com.ua/leftframes/ecolog/te_kto/sovrem/ch/3.htm.

Судно строилось по заказу СССР (наблюдал представитель МФ СССР) как торговое, но в первый рейс было отправлено как экспедиционное-снабжения (для проверки возможности прохождения СМП и снабжения станции на о.Врангель). Ваш термин "former defense vessel" мне непонятен. Военные суда обычно называются "кораблями". По ряду особенностей переоборудование военного корабля в экспедиционное судно смысла не имеет (слишком разные возможности по предназначению). Даже более распространённое переоборудование другого направления (например, нис во вспомогательный крейсер) требует значительных расходов и известно только во время войны.
Переоборудование невоенных специализированных судов (например, торгового Марса в нис Витязь, зверобойного в нис Персей или лесовозов в суда космической связи) распространено.

rocksea
10th May 2005, 02:40 PM
:eek: means??? will you put it in english, in 2-3 words :D

Михаил
10th May 2005, 10:12 PM
:eek: means??? will you put it in english, in 2-3 words :D
sure, i will:
1. for
2. rescue
3. operation.
By the way, is not it useful to study Russian (like we study English and Japanese) at least a little ?

rocksea
11th May 2005, 12:04 PM
you mean cheluskin was used for rescue operations?
why did it became famous because of that?

yeah i am interested in russian language if someone could
teach me the basics.. though there are too many things running
through my head right now.
i know that there are lots of interesting scientific, mathematic
books in russian.. which the outer world have rarely seen.
i have gone through some translations.. interesting!

Михаил
11th May 2005, 10:12 PM
you mean cheluskin was used for rescue operations?
why did it became famous because of that?!Briefly: its crew was rescued after crash. Famous: due to unusual rescue operation (in polar night, very far from civilisation facilities and expences).

"if someone could teach me the basics". Try to read books for children and sci papers interesting for You.
"too many things running through my head right now". Will You have another life ?
"which the outer world have rarely seen". Yes, English (or Chinese) will be ONE language in a future. English is the basic now (like French in the past).
But scientists have to know more than ONE language, is not it?
Man who knows 2 languages - bilangual, many languages- multilangual,
ONE language- american.

rocksea
12th May 2005, 04:12 AM
hehe. but we indians know several languages ;)
hindi is our national language and for me, native language is malayalam.
that means we basically know 3 including english.
usually most of the indians know 3-4 languages.

so wanna learn some hindi or malayalam
i can teach you some japanese too:thumbsup:

the importance of other languages besides english is the reason why
we have multilingual forums on websites like this.
for everyone, it may not be always possible to learn other languages.

thanks for the info abt cheluskin.

Михаил
12th May 2005, 06:44 AM
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"hehe. we know several languages:hindi, malayalam, english".
-Hehe also. We, Russians, know some variants of Russian language.
"wanna learn some hindi or malayalam"
-I am afraid I can't find any possibility to talk in such respectable languages.
"i can teach you some japanese too".
-I know it enough to talk with japanese.
"the importance of other languages besides english is the reason why
we have multilingual forums on websites like this".
-I am glad You understood the importance of Russian at this site.
"for everyone, it may not be always possible to learn other languages".
-Up to You. As for me: I'd like to study Korean in Korea, Italian in Italy.
"thanks for the info abt cheluskin".
-You are welcome.

rocksea
12th August 2005, 10:56 AM
hi guys, how are you all doing out here!
seems you are having a good discussion.
yours is the most active forum.
gambatte:thumbsup: (good luck, in japanese).

Михаил
16th August 2005, 05:56 AM
With the taking into account huge distance between oceanographers (between SPb and Vladivostok- more 10 000 km) and Russian language that join us together only, active life of this page of the site is understandable.

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